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		<title>What Makes Us Conserve Energy? 6 Lessons from the Smart Grid</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 01:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smart meters are providing consumers with hourly and daily energy use information. But does it inspire conservation?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_25851" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://science.kqed.org/quest/files/2011/10/Meter.jpg" rel="lightbox[25846]" title="Meter"><img src="http://science.kqed.org/quest/files/2011/10/Meter-300x169.jpg" alt="" title="Meter" width="300" height="169" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-25851" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A PG&amp;E SmartMeter on a Bay Area home. (Photo: Lauren Sommer)</p></div>
<p>Smart meters have arrived for many Californians. More than 11 million have been installed by electric utilities in the state, with PG&amp;E leading the way. The new meters digitally track a household's energy use. So, for the first time, we can see our daily and even hourly data online (with a one-day lag before it's posted).</p>
<p>Studies have shown that consumers reduce their energy use when they have access to this information. But as PG&amp;E and other utilities have discovered, raw energy data doesn't mean much to most of us (<a href="http://science.kqed.org/quest/audio/in-a-sea-of-energy-data-utilities-try-to-inspire-conservation/">including me in this week's QUEST story</a>).</p>
<p>A number of clean tech start-ups and major corporations are jumping into this space, trying to bridge the gap between hardware (meter) and well, "soft"-ware (consumers). </p>
<p>Getting busy people to change their behavior is no simple task. So I spoke to two companies that have worked with PG&amp;E and other utilities on this problem. Both <a href="http://opower.com/">Opower </a>and <a href="http://www.silverspringnet.com/">Silver Springs Networks</a> have designed the web portals that consumers see when they log into their utility accounts. They're designed not just to make us understand, but to inspire us to use less energy in our daily lives. I asked Dan Yates of Opower and Eric Dresselhuys of Silver Spring Networks what lessons they've learned.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 1: Keep Up with the Joneses </strong></p>
<p>You might think that saving the planet would be enough of a reason to guilt us into energy conservation. But it turns out that our competitive streak is a bigger motivator.</p>
<p>The companies' websites show customers how their energy use compares to similar houses in their neighborhood. Don't worry &#8211; they're not publishing exactly how much electricity the Smiths use down the street. But the companies say knowing how you compare to others is a powerful motivation.</p>
<p>"It's not shame," says Yates of Opower. "It is really just recognizing an addressable opportunity to reduce usage. If I have a $250 utility bill, I don't really know how much I can save. But as soon as I know that a similar home in my neighborhood is paying $150, suddenly I feel like I have an addressable gap of $100 that I want to pay attention."</p>
<p>It's called "normative comparison" in the behavioral science world. And Dresselhuys agrees. "People don't like to lose. People start to wonder why they use so much more than their neighbor does and they start to dig into it."</p>
<p>Opower is rolling out new social features later this year that allow customers to compare themselves to friends on Facebook. "It puts the information in a context that's relevant to people. We've seen the power of the neighbor comparison and we're taking it to the next level with the friend comparison," says Yates.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 2: Provide Concrete Advice</strong></p>
<p>Once you get people's attention, they need specific recommendations to take action on – and those recommendations need to be doable, say Yates. "People don't want data, they want insights."</p>
<p> "I always joke that my mom is my litmus test. And I know that she would never spend a minute looking at raw energy data. But what she would love to find out is that her freezer is very energy intensive and it would be worth it to buy a new one," he says.</p>
<p>Opower is working with PG&amp;E to roll out a new web portal to customers by the end of the year. Using smart meter data, they can analyze a household's energy use and break it into four categories: heating, cooling, base load (like refrigerator and DVR) and everything else (like lighting and TV watching). </p>
<p>Heating and cooling makes up half of a home's energy use on average. Yates says reducing your heating and cooling load is one of the easiest ways to save energy and reduce your bill.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 3: Get Information Out There</strong></p>
<p>"The average customer isn't getting up in the morning and checking their energy use data," says Yates. Emails, text messages and plain old snail mail are crucial for getting customers to pay attention.</p>
<p>Eric Dresselhuys says mobile devices, including iPhone apps, are making it much easier. "You can get a text if your electricity usage is getting high. Or the utility can send a message on peak days when they need customers to conserve energy," he says.</p>
<p>Letting customers know what their bill will be is also a good way to get their attention. "Today, getting your utility bill is like shopping for groceries all month long and never seeing a bill until the end of the month," he says.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 4: Set a Goal</strong></p>
<p>Remember those gold stars in elementary school? It turns out we still like to be rewarded when we achieve something.</p>
<p>"What we see is that getting people to go after a goal, even 5%, has a big impact," says Yates. When they track a customer's progress towards a goal, Yates says it helps them save energy, no matter the size of the goal. "It's applicable even if you're at the very bottom of the pile and use a ton of energy," he says.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 5: Tell People When They Do Well but Don't Overdo it</strong></p>
<p>Say you're super energy efficient, turning off lights and power strips in your house with unrelenting dedication. If your utility tells you that you're head and shoulders above everyone else, chances are you'll stop trying so hard.  "This was a concerning outcome of earlier studies we did," says Yates. </p>
<p>"It's been seen in other scenarios. There was an anti-drinking campaign called ‘two beers is enough' at college campuses. There were non-drinkers who started thinking ‘if the campus is telling me two is enough, maybe I should drink more beer," he says.</p>
<p>"We've designed our reports so everyone has a goal in front of them," says Yates. It's always good to reward people for doing a good job, but Yates says they stay away from telling people if they're achieving way above expectations.</p>
<p><strong>Lesson 6: The Smart Grid is Probably Smarter without Consumers</strong></p>
<p>Home automation, as its known, is almost a holy grail for utilities. If technology can take care of energy conservation, then customers don't have do remember to do it.</p>
<p>The idea is that on peak days, when the utility needs to conserve energy, it can send a message to a customer's smart meter. The meter is connected to the thermostat over a Home Area Network, so the thermostat adjusts itself by a few degrees to conserve electricity. Customers can opt-out anytime.</p>
<p>Both the carrot and stick in this case comes in the form of a varied pricing plan. During hot afternoons or so-called "peak events," electricity would be more expensive. So the customer has the potential to save money by shifting their energy use later in the evening when power is cheaper.</p>
<p>Dresselhuys says they saw the potential of this in a pilot with Oklahoma Gas &amp; Electric customers. "The more automation in the home, the higher the level of savings. Using that home automation about doubles the amount of money they can save," he says.</p>
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		<title>Producer&#039;s Notes &#8211; Climate Watch: Unlocking the Grid</title>
		<link>http://science.kqed.org/quest/2009/08/25/producers-notes-climate-watch-unlocking-the-grid/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Kass</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last summer I visited the Netherlands, the original home of the windmill. Surprisingly, I saw hardly any of the quaint structures we associate with Dutch wind power. One hundred years ago Holland had about 10,000 wooden windmills dotting its landscape. Today, barely 10% remain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <span class="left"><a href="http://science.kqed.org/quest/video/climate-watch-unlocking-the-grid"><img src="http://science.kqed.org/quest/files/2009/08/blog_windmill-turbine.jpg" alt="" /></a><em>And old, 19th Century windmill in contrast to wind turbines today.</em></span></p>
<p>Last summer I visited the Netherlands, the original home of the windmill. Surprisingly, I saw hardly any of the quaint structures we associate with Dutch wind power. One hundred years ago Holland had about 10,000<a href="http://us.holland.com/e/14264/Windmills%20at%20Kinderdijk.php"> wooden windmills</a> dotting its landscape. Today, barely 10% remain. What I saw instead were high tech wind turbines, white and spare and gracefully generating electricity with wind from the North Sea. Many view these modern day towers as an eyesore, but I see them as a sign of hope. Like giant flowers across a landscape, they symbolize for me a clean energy future. But wind power, and solar, have a handicap that fuels claims that renewables will never be more than a small percentage of U.S. power. These energy sources can't be counted on when night falls or the wind subsides. Their inconsistent and therefore unreliable nature poses a problem for a world with an enormous appetite for electricity. If only excess power could be stored on a grand scale, it might solve many of our energy problems.</p>
<p>It isn't that electrical energy isn't currently storable, but as Andrew Tang, Senior Director of PG&#038;E’s <a href="http://www.pge.com/smartmeter/">Smart Meter</a> program points out, the current generation of batteries can’t store electricity at a price that's cost effective. But both he and Steve Berberich from <a href="http://www.caiso.com/">California System Operators</a> were optimistic about future storage possibilities. Tang described an experimental project that uses a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-sulfur_battery">sodium sulfur battery</a> the size of an 18-wheeler trailer. The battery would be located next to a substation, or somewhere in the network, and its stored power would be used during times of peak demand. He also talked about the future of plug-in electric cars whose batteries could both store energy and in theory put it back onto the grid when the car's not in use. Steve Berberich envisioned several possibilities for storing excess power. He proposed converting it to hydrogen, which could be burned in a gas plant or could be used in a fuel cell. And he suggested using power to compress air, which could be injected into the ground and called upon when the wind's not blowing and the sun’s not shining. </p>
<p>Whatever the final solution to storage, you can guarantee it will be a game changer in the renewable power industry. No longer will wind and solar be looked upon as unreliable. Hopefully this missing puzzle piece will go a long way towards helping us detach from our dependence on fossil fuels. But we’ll still be left with the challenge of getting all that clean, green energy onto the power grid. And you can be sure that environmental concerns, zoning, aesthetics, and cost will undoubtedly be cantankerous issues for years to come. </p>
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		<title>Reporter&#039;s Notes: Smart Grid at Home</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lauren Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've never paid much attention to my electric meter. For most of us, it's just that box on the side of the house with a small white disk spinning inside, keeping track of our energy use. But over the next three years, all the meters for PG&#38;E customers will be getting a major upgrade to a new, digital SmartMeter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="left"><a href="http://science.kqed.org/quest/audio/smart-grid-at-home"><img src="http://science.kqed.org/quest/files/2009/04/radio3-27_smartgridblog.jpg" alt="" /></a><em>Hourly energy use data, now online.</em></span></p>
<p>I've never paid much attention to my electric meter. For most of us, it's just that box on the side of the house with a small white disk spinning inside, keeping track of our energy use. But over the next three years, all the meters of PG&amp;E customers will be getting a major upgrade to a new, digital <a href="http://www.pge.com/smartmeter/" target="_blank">SmartMeter</a>.</p>
<p>I met one customer, Ken Kube in Castro Valley, whose meter has already been upgraded. Since the new meters track his home energy use digitally, Kube can log into his PG&amp;E account and see his real-time energy use.  On one level, it's really the ultimate tool for parents who like to remind their kids to turn out the lights.  But it's also a powerful conservation tool.  Kube could see how much energy he uses at night, when his appliances are drawing power in stand-by more (what's known as "vampire" power).</p>
<p>These meters are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to a smart grid. Just what the smart grid is depends on whom you ask, but most people agree it comes down to one thing: communication.  The energy landscape is changing rapidly.  In addition to increasing demand, there's more renewable power like large-scale solar and wind coming online &#8211; which are often far from urban areas and are available intermittently. There's also small-scale solar on building rooftops &#8211; which means energy consumers are becoming energy producers. There will also be plug-in electric cars, which need to draw power from grid.</p>
<p>To manage all this, utilities and grid operators need more information than they have. And that's where meters come in. But as Kurt Yeager of the <a href="http://www.galvinpower.org/" target="_blank">Galvin Electricity Initiative</a> describes, it's a huge networking challenge &#8211; and a huge market opportunity.</p>
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<p>A number of companies have jumped into the smart grid market as a result, from Silicon Valley start ups to international corporations.  As Eric Miller, the Chief Solutions Officer for <a href="http://www.trilliantinc.com/" target="_blank">Trilliant</a> describes, managing the information flow in smart grid will be the biggest challenge.</p>
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<p>Other smart grid companies are banking on the consumer market.  Google is developing the <a href="http://www.google.org/powermeter/" target="_blank">PowerMeter</a>, an online tool that tracks home energy use. They're partnering with GE, who is positioned to work with utilities, with its meter technology, and with consumers, with smart appliances, as Sunil Sharan, the Director of the <a href="http://www.trilliantinc.com/" target="_blank">Smart Grid Initiative</a> explains.</p>
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