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	<title>Comments on: 5 out of 9 Justices Recommend Leaving Innocent People in Jail</title>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://science.kqed.org/quest/2009/06/22/5-out-of-9-justices-recommend-leaving-innocent-people-in-jail/#comment-12015</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another happy ending thanks to DNA testing:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110104/ap_on_re_us/us_dna_exoneration_texas  Of course it is a happy ending after 31 years in prison...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another happy ending thanks to DNA testing:  <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110104/ap_on_re_us/us_dna_exoneration_texas" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110104/ap_on_re_us/us_dna_exoneration_texas</a>  Of course it is a happy ending after 31 years in prison&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Starr</title>
		<link>http://science.kqed.org/quest/2009/06/22/5-out-of-9-justices-recommend-leaving-innocent-people-in-jail/#comment-12014</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong righted despite our Supreme Court: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap_on_re_us/us_old_rape_dna_17</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong righted despite our Supreme Court: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap_on_re_us/us_old_rape_dna_17" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap_on_re_us/us_old_rape_dna_17</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Starr</title>
		<link>http://science.kqed.org/quest/2009/06/22/5-out-of-9-justices-recommend-leaving-innocent-people-in-jail/#comment-12012</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This response is why I like writing a blog...it is a take on the story that I hadn&#039;t considered.  I never thought of myself as Marvin (although maybe I should have since I used to be hassled by the police a lot when I was younger).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This response is why I like writing a blog&#8230;it is a take on the story that I hadn't considered.  I never thought of myself as Marvin (although maybe I should have since I used to be hassled by the police a lot when I was younger).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m usually more willing to believe that the majority of people in prison don&#039;t belong there. In many states people who belong locked up in mental institutions on medication are locked behind bars. The prison system is then required to deal with those people. Another issue is that most guilty people know they&#039;re guilty, and take precautions. They depend on their legal representation to either get them off or reduce what sentences they might have. Innocent people are often naive enough to believe that their Innocence will protect them. This is an extreme absurdity. Prosecutors care less about protecting the public from criminals than padding their conviction record. Politicians and judges want to appear tough on crime, so they throw the book at whomever they can in an attempt to become re-elected. The public picks its witch hunt of the season (robbery, drugs, sex crimes, ect) and our politicians in general hunt people down to burn at the stake for the public amusement.

Consider for a second that America has 25% of the worlds prison population, and only 5% of its total population. American courts are more likely to throw someone in jail, and for longer sentences than anywhere else in the world. Do you have more rights on paper than other parts of the world? Hell yes. Are those rights observed? Hell no. Avoid the American Justice system at all costs. Never assume innocence is form of protection, and know who you&#039;re voting in as judges and State&#039;s Attorney. Also, I suggest assuming your local police are crooked (even if you know the person), and avoiding dealing with them as much as possible. Buy a gun, protect yourself, and for God&#039;s sake know your rights. Message brought to you by a Conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm usually more willing to believe that the majority of people in prison don't belong there. In many states people who belong locked up in mental institutions on medication are locked behind bars. The prison system is then required to deal with those people. Another issue is that most guilty people know they're guilty, and take precautions. They depend on their legal representation to either get them off or reduce what sentences they might have. Innocent people are often naive enough to believe that their Innocence will protect them. This is an extreme absurdity. Prosecutors care less about protecting the public from criminals than padding their conviction record. Politicians and judges want to appear tough on crime, so they throw the book at whomever they can in an attempt to become re-elected. The public picks its witch hunt of the season (robbery, drugs, sex crimes, ect) and our politicians in general hunt people down to burn at the stake for the public amusement.</p>
<p>Consider for a second that America has 25% of the worlds prison population, and only 5% of its total population. American courts are more likely to throw someone in jail, and for longer sentences than anywhere else in the world. Do you have more rights on paper than other parts of the world? Hell yes. Are those rights observed? Hell no. Avoid the American Justice system at all costs. Never assume innocence is form of protection, and know who you're voting in as judges and State's Attorney. Also, I suggest assuming your local police are crooked (even if you know the person), and avoiding dealing with them as much as possible. Buy a gun, protect yourself, and for God's sake know your rights. Message brought to you by a Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laws are laws. Laws are often conflicting and There is fundamental requirement of justice in constitution. It is to support standing and respect of the courts in the system. It is ironic, that through this decision the SC has put the entire judicial system into disrepute. It appears like a clown circus now.

Further there is doctrine of &quot;beyond reasonable doubt&quot;. The cases highlight that judicial system failed to analyze cases properly. Punishing innocent is the worst which can happen. The real offender avoids punishment, while somebody looses their life. Instead of correcting the failures to restore justice, it appears the system tries to keep lid on the discovery of the true scope and extent of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laws are laws. Laws are often conflicting and There is fundamental requirement of justice in constitution. It is to support standing and respect of the courts in the system. It is ironic, that through this decision the SC has put the entire judicial system into disrepute. It appears like a clown circus now.</p>
<p>Further there is doctrine of "beyond reasonable doubt". The cases highlight that judicial system failed to analyze cases properly. Punishing innocent is the worst which can happen. The real offender avoids punishment, while somebody looses their life. Instead of correcting the failures to restore justice, it appears the system tries to keep lid on the discovery of the true scope and extent of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: John Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fiorentino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, this is a States&#039; rights issue. Therein is the rub.

Are there some innocent people in jail? You bet, just as there are guilty ones walking the streets. Both ideas are repulsive and tragedies in their own right.

Our system of justice is far from perfect, but all in all functions as designed.

&quot;Charlie&quot; is correct re: the 10th amendment.

I think Dr. Starr&#039;s &quot;Gore vs. Bush&quot; analogy is simple wrong. On the other hand, I don&#039;t feel Dr. Starr was flaunting his Ph&#039;D to indicate he has &quot;a superior ability to know what is best for the people in the United States.&quot;

Dr. Starr&#039;s politics are irrelevant to the issue at hand. He simply doesn&#039;t understand the law, but that is certainly not an indictment.

I feel quite the opposite about Charlie&#039;s analysis of Dr. Starr.

The fact is, it would be much healthier for everyone if we could get away from this &quot;qualification&quot; issue. Dr. Starr is entitled to his opinion, just as you are. Whether that opinion can be judged &quot;right or wrong&quot; is a different issue entirely.

Personally, I&#039;m glad to see the Dr. commenting on things with a broader scope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, this is a States' rights issue. Therein is the rub.</p>
<p>Are there some innocent people in jail? You bet, just as there are guilty ones walking the streets. Both ideas are repulsive and tragedies in their own right.</p>
<p>Our system of justice is far from perfect, but all in all functions as designed.</p>
<p>"Charlie" is correct re: the 10th amendment.</p>
<p>I think Dr. Starr's "Gore vs. Bush" analogy is simple wrong. On the other hand, I don't feel Dr. Starr was flaunting his Ph'D to indicate he has "a superior ability to know what is best for the people in the United States."</p>
<p>Dr. Starr's politics are irrelevant to the issue at hand. He simply doesn't understand the law, but that is certainly not an indictment.</p>
<p>I feel quite the opposite about Charlie's analysis of Dr. Starr.</p>
<p>The fact is, it would be much healthier for everyone if we could get away from this "qualification" issue. Dr. Starr is entitled to his opinion, just as you are. Whether that opinion can be judged "right or wrong" is a different issue entirely.</p>
<p>Personally, I'm glad to see the Dr. commenting on things with a broader scope.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Starr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My degree gives me no superior ability in law...I freely admit that I am not knowledgeable about constitutional law.  What I do know is that there are innocent men and women in prison who could be freed with a simple DNA test.

See http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/1852.php for more information about the legal grounds on which the Innocence Project brought their case to the Supreme Court.

Also, Gore vs. Bush didn&#039;t bother me because of its outcome...Bush would probably have won a recount anyway.  What bothered me about that ruling was that it split in a way that obviously fit with the biases of the Justices themselves.  Up to that point I had the naive view that the Court was impartial and unbiased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My degree gives me no superior ability in law&#8230;I freely admit that I am not knowledgeable about constitutional law.  What I do know is that there are innocent men and women in prison who could be freed with a simple DNA test.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/1852.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/1852.php</a> for more information about the legal grounds on which the Innocence Project brought their case to the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>Also, Gore vs. Bush didn't bother me because of its outcome&#8230;Bush would probably have won a recount anyway.  What bothered me about that ruling was that it split in a way that obviously fit with the biases of the Justices themselves.  Up to that point I had the naive view that the Court was impartial and unbiased.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course you are correct in your supposition that there is some legal reason why the Supreme Ct ruled the way it did.

 It is not up to the Court to make laws.  It must follow the Constitutional mandates.  In this case they left it up to the states to decide on the use of DNA testing.  The 10th Amendment gives this power to the states.

It would be nice if individuals could decide for themselves what is right and best for this country without it interfering with the rights of others, but that is impossible.

Your first statement regarding Gore vs. Bush indicates your liberal and left wing view of the United States.  Just because you have the Dr. degree doesn&#039;t mean that you have a superior ability to know what is best for the people in the United States.  It would be much better for you to state what your opinion is rather than state that your opinion is superior to that of the Supreme Court of the U. S.

You&#039;d be more believable if you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you are correct in your supposition that there is some legal reason why the Supreme Ct ruled the way it did.</p>
<p> It is not up to the Court to make laws.  It must follow the Constitutional mandates.  In this case they left it up to the states to decide on the use of DNA testing.  The 10th Amendment gives this power to the states.</p>
<p>It would be nice if individuals could decide for themselves what is right and best for this country without it interfering with the rights of others, but that is impossible.</p>
<p>Your first statement regarding Gore vs. Bush indicates your liberal and left wing view of the United States.  Just because you have the Dr. degree doesn't mean that you have a superior ability to know what is best for the people in the United States.  It would be much better for you to state what your opinion is rather than state that your opinion is superior to that of the Supreme Court of the U. S.</p>
<p>You'd be more believable if you did.</p>
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